help 2012 DSP will not connect to lasercut 5.2

[waltfl]

Hi richard,
I could set up the X switch it works perfect but the Y is another probleme, evrytime the Y runs against the Y switch it bounces a bit and this loosens the X switch and the X axis starts moving to the next position sometimes all the way.
I believe it has to do with the DSP what does not stop the Y driver on contact. this is maybe another bug what needs to be resolved.
greetings
walt

Hi Walt.
Go to the files section and download the latest 5.5 software. Marco downloaded it this afternoon.

That should fix the problem. It did for me.!

Have you set your limits up yet as I can't seem to get them working yet either. Maybe some help from you will be needed or there is a problem with the implementation in software. Some times I wonder if these boards are actually tested on a machine or just tested in a lab.

regards
Richard.

[waltfl]

Hi richard again
to the laser can you test the laser with the "laser " botton on the display? did you look in to the revised connection?
the water flow switch has nothing to do with the laser working because I have bypassed them too. and I can test the laser with the botton.
I could not test the laser with anythings from the programss untill I can connect tothe computer I just downloaded the version 5.5 lets see if this fixes the probleme.
you know head scratching is not enough for my I allready ripping out my hair yeah maybe bold does not look bad ether.
greetings
walt

The latest download of LaserCad5.5 (5.4?) fixes the comms problem.

Corel Draw does indeed parse the file info to LaserCad5.

I still have a couple of small problems to iron out though.

I can't for the life of me get the limits to work. Every time I set it up 1 way the gantry locks up and won't move and if I set it up another way the gantry just slams into the stops without recognising the limit activation.

I have tried setting "High" ( as it should to recognise the 24V with NC switches) with no affect and "Low" setting doesn't work either.
I removed the cover so I could watch the led's on the limits when they trip and every thing is working on that side of things but for the life of me I can't seem to get the right configuration for it to work.

The Gecko drives work well with the "Falling Pulse" setting and I am sure I have the direction for the axis set up right. If I click on the arrows on the screen the gantry moves the right way as do the LCD panel direction arrows so that is OK!

I set the check mark on the "Hardware Limits" and the gantry won't move past the soft limits and if I do a reset the head just slams into the stops but does not stop the motion. The limits are sensed and you can see the lights (led's) go on and off. I have tried to set this to go the negative direction with the same result. It's almost as if each setting has an alter ego that tries to counteract the switch settings.

I will have to be a lot more clinical in my setting up this time around and make a note of what I do and see what happens again.

I can't get the laser to fire from the set up yet either as I don't know which settings to set for the laser to work. I have wired it up as per the set up instructions.

I don't think it's the water flow sensor as I have that bypassed.

The "Door Open" check box isn't set so that shouldn't make any difference.

The "Foot Control" also isn't set. What is this actually for ? Does it tie in with the Emergency stop Switch? as there isn't any reference to that anywhere or any reference to the air assist also.

There is no mention of an "Air Assist" anywhere.!
I can't find an output that comes on when the file is started or processed so I can't get the air to turn on and off yet. Getting used to this one though!! I think this is one part of the hardware that is absolutely critical for auto control yet it still evades me and I have to do it manually.

The motion side of things is great and couldn't be better. It's smooth and I can get almost 500mm/sec out of it before it stalls. That's 250 more than the old board.

I beg to differ with Marco that the board/software is similar to the old one.
There are a lot of new settings that are applied to the one interface which makes setting things MUCH easier and you only need to apply the password once at the start of setting up and it will remember it until the next restart. that's definitely a bonus.
Some of the new settings like Rising pulse and Falling pulse and the directional controls would probably have a novice scratching their head on what they do. The Manual really does need to be released very soon for these settings to be uncovered and brought out into the light so people can better find out what is going on.
All in all it is still a step in the right direction and the set up screens are consolidated into 1 screen so there is no running around all over the screen making setting changes. The setting tab on the right hand side of the screen is now incorporated into the Options screen. That's a bonus.!
Making setting changes happen quite a lot when you are experimenting with different cut paths and speeds/feeds and power levels for differing materials.

I will have another go at it in a while after dinner.
Richard.

[waltfl]

Hi all
I just downloaded the newest version 5.5B with the 64bit driver but it did not solve my probleme
there allways comes the message " connection unsuccesfull"
I got no idea what is going on.
does anybody have connected the new 2012 DSP with the computer?
please let me know how you did it.
thanks
walt

[baccus61]

Have you tried it with just the 32 bit operating system.
It works on mine. I just press the connect button then press the search button and then delete the one that doesn't work and select the one that does.
I think I will have to post a screen grab of this.
Rich.

[waltfl]

Hi rich,
yes I try this with windows 7 both 32bit and 64 bit version and also with windows XP 32 bit the same result. in control panel under communication mode it shows next to select mode " USB: com3" if I press the select mode botton in lasercut 5.5B there opens the extra window what shows USB Mode under this under device name " machname and com 3.
but if I wana safe the parameter to the machine the message comes back "comunication unsuccessfull"
its allways the same thing.
I tell you I have upgraded my K40 two times to the next version of moshi controller boards and this was nothing against this nightmare with the DSP.
I will wright to marcus what this should be.
greetings
walt

Have you tried it with just the 32 bit operating system.
It works on mine. I just press the connect button then press the search button and then delete the one that doesn't work and select the one that does.
I think I will have to post a screen grab of this.
Rich.

[waltfl]

this is for marco.
I dont know what you saying but for my part its going rediculus I think the Contoller has a probleme/ faulty with the usb.
I did everythings what everybody including you have recommendet I downloaded all version from you worked with three computer and nothing works tha any of the computer can connect to the machine.
I am working now on this for 4 days it is more then frustrating I also see that others having similar problemes this needs to be fixed.
I tell you I heve replaced quite a few od the moshi controller boards this was a piece of cake against this DSP because after installing everyhtings it did at least work somehow but was not reliable thats why I spend pretty much $ 900 to get a reliable system but this was a mistake I guess.
now I aske you what should I do ??
please reply ASAP
thanks
walt

[waltfl]

Hi rich,
wher do you have a search button in the new version 5.5B???
greetings
walt

Have you tried it with just the 32 bit operating system.
It works on mine. I just press the connect button then press the search button and then delete the one that doesn't work and select the one that does.
I think I will have to post a screen grab of this.
Rich.

[baccus61]

Sorry to put you on a bum steer, Walt. There is No search button!

Here are some screen grabs of what I have done to get mine working.
If the USB ports don't show up on your computer then turn the computer off and UNPLUG the power cord for a few seconds. This will reset the USB ports on your computer. You must unplug the power cord or it won't make any difference.

This is only if your USB ports are playing up.

Don't forget to save your settings under the "File" menu. Select export and "Laser" or something you understand to be the start up file for the Laser.

Here are the pics.
Rich.

[waltfl]

Hi rich,
thanks I will try this maybe it works. I am using a laptop ( brand new) there I probably have to tale out the battery too.
greetings
walt

Sorry to put you on a bum steer, Walt. There is No search button!

Here are some screen grabs of what I have done to get mine working.
If the USB ports don't show up on your computer then turn the computer off and UNPLUG the power cord for a few seconds. This will reset the USB ports on your computer. You must unplug the power cord or it won't make any difference.

This is only if your USB ports are playing up.

Don't forget to save your settings under the "File" menu. Select export and "Laser" or something you understand to be the start up file for the Laser.

Here are the pics.
Rich.

[baccus61]

I know 1 thing about the new laptops is that there are a lot of "Green" power saving stuff in them now so it might pay you to check with a multimeter to see of you have the correct 5volts at the USB terminals.
Most of the parallel ports on laptops are now 3.3 volts which is just on the threshold of the switching voltage of the stepper drivers so it can muck them up a lot giving you false readings. ( I know you're not using the parallel port, it's just an example)

It will pay you to check this. It might be in the documentation of the laptop.

Rich.

[waltfl]

Hi rich
greeting to down under from florida
did you conect your new DSP? I am allready happy if I can connect at all, because the stepper driver are driven by the DSP over opto copller from a seperate Power supply, not from the laptop USB.
I can not safe anythings without beeing connected to the machine
du you a simple kind how to check the DSP USB ?
I had before the damn moshi controller and it worked fine with the laptops.
but thanks for you tips and help.
greetings
walt

I know 1 thing about the new laptops is that there are a lot of "Green" power saving stuff in them now so it might pay you to check with a multimeter to see of you have the correct 5volts at the USB terminals.
Most of the parallel ports on laptops are now 3.3 volts which is just on the threshold of the switching voltage of the stepper drivers so it can muck them up a lot giving you false readings. ( I know you're not using the parallel port, it's just an example)

It will pay you to check this. It might be in the documentation of the laptop.

Rich.

[baccus61]

Hi Walt in sunny Florida.
Here are some terminal pin out's for you.

It's probably not the problem but it might pay to check anyway and rule 1 thing out.

Have you tried the Network cable or have you got the version without it. I think that one was only released a week ago and you have had yours for 6 weeks so you probably don't have that version.

Rich.

[baccus61]

here is a link to one of my threads over at the Laser Discussion part of the forum.

viewtopic.php?f=47&t=851

It just outlines what I have found through testing my controller.

I think they have a bit more work to do to get things right.

Rich.

[waltfl]

Hi rich,
i did your recommendation with the check for com but nothing works
I also checked the machine USB port for the voltage there is nothing but the usb ports on my computer are ok.
I believe there is something wrong with the board and I need to send it back what takes probably another 3 to 4 weeks because I have to send it now to china like marcus wrote. there you was probably right that it is a christmess present.
I tell you this is a night mare.
greetings
walt

Hi Walt in sunny Florida.
Here are some terminal pin out's for you.

It's probably not the problem but it might pay to check anyway and rule 1 thing out.

Have you tried the Network cable or have you got the version without it. I think that one was only released a week ago and you have had yours for 6 weeks so you probably don't have that version.

Rich.

[Tech_Marco]

Come on Walt, don't scary other folks! I told you to send it back to China because I'm here now. It take 6~7 days to receive the package if ship by USPS Priority Mail. Then it take 2~3 days at most to figure out the problem. If it's defective, a new card would ship to you from my office in USA. It's nothing more than 2 weeks.

I'm wondering is you used the same USB cable or did you try other. It seems very odd that the card didn't talk to any PC. When you hook up the card to a PC, was there any prompt pop up for driver or was the PC just keep 'silienc'? If no detection happned, it mean that either a faulty cable or the lose contact on the USB plug


Marco